well i think britain's interest is in having stability on the on the if you like the southern flank of nato just across the mediterranean from from western europe. i don't accept these conspiracy theories about minerals i think it's really about knowing that we have we have stable neighbors stable neighbors but at the same time britain openly backs rebels who are known to have sort of attachments to al qaeda and other is islamist groups in syria. yes yes well if i say the region and you're saying it was more of a geo political in terms of security and not resources so where then why yes in syria no in algeria in mali well i think it's a different story this is not. an al qaeda linked islam the stop arising in syria it's all been repeated who want a different life they want to be rid of a tyrant. aside in charge of them and the story in mali is completely different this is. a foreign intervention by the al-qaeda linked terrorists themselves this is not honest molly armstrong to change the government political analyst john locke on this doesn't agree with the former ambassador as assertion th